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	<description>Thoughts on buying, selling and investing by Grant Hammond</description>
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		<title>By: Griffin Plaza Condo Site in Gulch Gets Reprieve &#124; Nashville Condos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griffin Plaza Condo Site in Gulch Gets Reprieve &#124; Nashville Condos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] same time, Crosland was in the midst of a giant condo auction at their other Nashville project, The Terrazzo. This condo auction’s massive amount of news coverage brought a new awareness to the Gulch as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] same time, Crosland was in the midst of a giant condo auction at their other Nashville project, The Terrazzo. This condo auction’s massive amount of news coverage brought a new awareness to the Gulch as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Griffin Plaza Condo Site in Gulch Gets Reprieve &#124; Nashville Real Estate</title>
		<link>http://www.granthammond.com/2009/condos/terrazzo-auction-results/comment-page-1/#comment-775</link>
		<dc:creator>Griffin Plaza Condo Site in Gulch Gets Reprieve &#124; Nashville Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 04:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] same time, Crosland was in the midst of a giant condo auction at their other Nashville project, The Terrazzo. This condo auction’s massive amount of news coverage brought a new awareness to the Gulch as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] same time, Crosland was in the midst of a giant condo auction at their other Nashville project, The Terrazzo. This condo auction’s massive amount of news coverage brought a new awareness to the Gulch as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The West End Condos Auction Results &#124; Nashville Real Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>The West End Condos Auction Results &#124; Nashville Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] question, but the answer is wholly obscured. The Terrazzo in the Gulch recently auctioned off 25-28 of their remaining condos and some expect one other condo project to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Terrazzo Re-Prices 30 Condos at Auction Rates &#124; Nashville Real Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrazzo Re-Prices 30 Condos at Auction Rates &#124; Nashville Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I would expect that very few condo developers will lower their listed prices as a result of the Terrazzo auction and subsequent re-pricing, but I do believe that they will become more flexible in negotiating [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.granthammond.com/2009/condos/terrazzo-auction-results/comment-page-1/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am of the opinion that in times like these folks can fall into an over analytical trap. I guess it all depends on what is motivating us to either buy or sell? If you are a buyer looking for a place to live, your analysis may be a little bit different than if you are an investor. If you are a developer looking to sell, your analysis may be different if your trying to pay down debt as opposed to making a profit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So many factors to consider when buying that honestly none of us have control over. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Will, I was in your place 20 years ago. What I do realize now that I didn&#039;t know then is that many things will eb and flow over time. At the end of the day, speaking in a general sense, the value of my condo that I bought in Hillsboro Village 20 years ago first as a primary residence that then turned into rental property served 1) as an enjoyable place to live, 2) positively cash flowed since I have rented it and 3) is worth more today than when I bought it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems to me that you are probabaly pretty safe to move forward with pulling the trigger and marking this off your list of things to mull over. In 10 years, regardless of which unit you buy and for what purpose, what you do buy will be worth more than what you bought it for and waiting around trying to figure out the absolute bottom may cost you alot more in interest (assuming you will be financing your purchase) than had you gone on and made a decision to buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am of the opinion that in times like these folks can fall into an over analytical trap. I guess it all depends on what is motivating us to either buy or sell? If you are a buyer looking for a place to live, your analysis may be a little bit different than if you are an investor. If you are a developer looking to sell, your analysis may be different if your trying to pay down debt as opposed to making a profit.</p>
<p>So many factors to consider when buying that honestly none of us have control over. </p>
<p>Will, I was in your place 20 years ago. What I do realize now that I didn&#39;t know then is that many things will eb and flow over time. At the end of the day, speaking in a general sense, the value of my condo that I bought in Hillsboro Village 20 years ago first as a primary residence that then turned into rental property served 1) as an enjoyable place to live, 2) positively cash flowed since I have rented it and 3) is worth more today than when I bought it.</p>
<p>It seems to me that you are probabaly pretty safe to move forward with pulling the trigger and marking this off your list of things to mull over. In 10 years, regardless of which unit you buy and for what purpose, what you do buy will be worth more than what you bought it for and waiting around trying to figure out the absolute bottom may cost you alot more in interest (assuming you will be financing your purchase) than had you gone on and made a decision to buy.</p>
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		<title>By: jbcreason</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am of the opinion that in times like these folks can fall into an over analytical trap. I guess it all depends on what is motivating us to either buy or sell? If you are a buyer looking for a place to live, your analysis may be a little bit different than if you are an investor. If you are a developer looking to sell, your analysis may be different if your trying to pay down debt as opposed to making a profit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So many factors to consider when buying that honestly none of us have control over. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Will, I was in your place 20 years ago. What I do realize now that I didn&#039;t know then is that many things will eb and flow over time. At the end of the day, speaking in a general sense, the value of my condo that I bought in Hillsboro Village 20 years ago first as a primary residence that then turned into rental property served 1) as an enjoyable place to live, 2) positively cash flowed since I have rented it and 3) is worth more today than when I bought it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems to me that you are probabaly pretty safe to move forward with pulling the trigger and marking this off your list of things to mull over. In 10 years, regardless of which unit you buy and for what purpose, what you do buy will be worth more than what you bought it for and waiting around trying to figure out the absolute bottom may cost you alot more in interest (assuming you will be financing your purchase) than had you gone on and made a decision to buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am of the opinion that in times like these folks can fall into an over analytical trap. I guess it all depends on what is motivating us to either buy or sell? If you are a buyer looking for a place to live, your analysis may be a little bit different than if you are an investor. If you are a developer looking to sell, your analysis may be different if your trying to pay down debt as opposed to making a profit.</p>
<p>So many factors to consider when buying that honestly none of us have control over. </p>
<p>Will, I was in your place 20 years ago. What I do realize now that I didn&#39;t know then is that many things will eb and flow over time. At the end of the day, speaking in a general sense, the value of my condo that I bought in Hillsboro Village 20 years ago first as a primary residence that then turned into rental property served 1) as an enjoyable place to live, 2) positively cash flowed since I have rented it and 3) is worth more today than when I bought it.</p>
<p>It seems to me that you are probabaly pretty safe to move forward with pulling the trigger and marking this off your list of things to mull over. In 10 years, regardless of which unit you buy and for what purpose, what you do buy will be worth more than what you bought it for and waiting around trying to figure out the absolute bottom may cost you alot more in interest (assuming you will be financing your purchase) than had you gone on and made a decision to buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given your desires, it doesn&#039;t sound like the Gulch is the place for you anyways.  There are places that you would like: larger square footage to entertain, not as many amenities, ample parking, quiet neighborhood...except it&#039;s not remotely close to downtown Nashville...it&#039;s in Brentwood or one of the many other &quot;stale&quot; suburbs.  You just have to weigh what takes priority.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For me, I wanted to be close to work and in a walkable neighborhood that had an electricity to it.  I enjoy living in the city where I feel I&#039;m actually part of the action.  I gladly gave up the square footage to enjoy this.  The train isn&#039;t even really that bad at the Icon; at least I don&#039;t think so.  Also, being a young professional and a red-blooded male, I&#039;m looking forward to the pool at the Icon in the summer.  After living here for a couple weeks, the scenery is spectacular!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given your desires, it doesn&#39;t sound like the Gulch is the place for you anyways.  There are places that you would like: larger square footage to entertain, not as many amenities, ample parking, quiet neighborhood&#8230;except it&#39;s not remotely close to downtown Nashville&#8230;it&#39;s in Brentwood or one of the many other &#8220;stale&#8221; suburbs.  You just have to weigh what takes priority.  </p>
<p>For me, I wanted to be close to work and in a walkable neighborhood that had an electricity to it.  I enjoy living in the city where I feel I&#39;m actually part of the action.  I gladly gave up the square footage to enjoy this.  The train isn&#39;t even really that bad at the Icon; at least I don&#39;t think so.  Also, being a young professional and a red-blooded male, I&#39;m looking forward to the pool at the Icon in the summer.  After living here for a couple weeks, the scenery is spectacular!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a young professional in the market for condos like Will.  I have been holding back due to the pricing.  I don&#039;t see Terrazzo auction as a liquidation sale or a distressed sale in any way.  The seller set the terms before the deal.  The seller could stop the auction at any time.  And they did, presumably because prices were getting too low.  I am currently an attorney but used to work in commerical appraisal.  I wouldn&#039;t adjust the sales in the auction in any way as a &quot;distressed sale.&quot;  In my opinion, the only reason you should look at higher price for these units in the near term is because there is somewhat less risk in the building in that it less vacant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some have previously referred to different buildings having their own &quot;ecomonies.&quot;  I agree to the extent that certain buildings target different buyers and have different risk.  I would pay more to live in the Adelicia than I would for the Terrazzo more several reasons.  A significant one being that the Adelicia is full.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Near term, I don&#039;t think Terrazzo is worth much more than auction prices.  As the building gets more established and takes on more owner - occupants as opposed to investors, I would think the prices would rise.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The West End auction seems to be a mess.  I haven&#039;t seen much marketing, and more importantly for a potential buyer, any guidance as to the auction terms.  I don&#039;t take this auction seriously at this point.  My understanding is that they won&#039;t divulge the min bids until the day of the auction.  I wouln&#039;t waste my time going if this is the case.  They seem to simply be fishing for bids and / or trying to distract potential buyers in the Terrazzo auction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In any event, I&#039;m not sure there is much of a market for these places (Icon, Velocity, Terrazzo) anyway.  If other young professionals are like me, they want a nice place to enterain people, but don&#039;t expect to live in the place very long, and are smart enough to expect a good deal.  I don&#039;t care about concierge service, a pool, or a game room.  I want a nice place to show my friends, minimal risk, min association fees, and a deal that makes sense.  I don&#039;t want to have to spend hours or pay an attorney in order to decide whether or not the association will soon be in shambles or whether the developer is playing games with the bylaws.  I want to be able to sell the place if I change jobs or get married.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At first, I really liked the idea of the Gulch.  However, after looking into it, I don&#039;t really get the appeal.  I love the idea of a walkable neighborhood and living close to work.  I don&#039;t like the idea of absurd association fees and living in front of a train track and beside a busy highway.  I want a nice place to entertain friends, but I don&#039;t want my friends to have to pay for valet parking when they visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a young professional in the market for condos like Will.  I have been holding back due to the pricing.  I don&#39;t see Terrazzo auction as a liquidation sale or a distressed sale in any way.  The seller set the terms before the deal.  The seller could stop the auction at any time.  And they did, presumably because prices were getting too low.  I am currently an attorney but used to work in commerical appraisal.  I wouldn&#39;t adjust the sales in the auction in any way as a &#8220;distressed sale.&#8221;  In my opinion, the only reason you should look at higher price for these units in the near term is because there is somewhat less risk in the building in that it less vacant.</p>
<p>Some have previously referred to different buildings having their own &#8220;ecomonies.&#8221;  I agree to the extent that certain buildings target different buyers and have different risk.  I would pay more to live in the Adelicia than I would for the Terrazzo more several reasons.  A significant one being that the Adelicia is full.</p>
<p>Near term, I don&#39;t think Terrazzo is worth much more than auction prices.  As the building gets more established and takes on more owner &#8211; occupants as opposed to investors, I would think the prices would rise.</p>
<p>The West End auction seems to be a mess.  I haven&#39;t seen much marketing, and more importantly for a potential buyer, any guidance as to the auction terms.  I don&#39;t take this auction seriously at this point.  My understanding is that they won&#39;t divulge the min bids until the day of the auction.  I wouln&#39;t waste my time going if this is the case.  They seem to simply be fishing for bids and / or trying to distract potential buyers in the Terrazzo auction.</p>
<p>In any event, I&#39;m not sure there is much of a market for these places (Icon, Velocity, Terrazzo) anyway.  If other young professionals are like me, they want a nice place to enterain people, but don&#39;t expect to live in the place very long, and are smart enough to expect a good deal.  I don&#39;t care about concierge service, a pool, or a game room.  I want a nice place to show my friends, minimal risk, min association fees, and a deal that makes sense.  I don&#39;t want to have to spend hours or pay an attorney in order to decide whether or not the association will soon be in shambles or whether the developer is playing games with the bylaws.  I want to be able to sell the place if I change jobs or get married.</p>
<p>At first, I really liked the idea of the Gulch.  However, after looking into it, I don&#39;t really get the appeal.  I love the idea of a walkable neighborhood and living close to work.  I don&#39;t like the idea of absurd association fees and living in front of a train track and beside a busy highway.  I want a nice place to entertain friends, but I don&#39;t want my friends to have to pay for valet parking when they visit.</p>
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		<title>By: aynrand2009</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I couldn&#039;t vote for McCain, who I didn&#039;t think had a clue about how to get us out of this economic mess. Unfortunately, it appears neither does Obama. Throwing good money after bad won&#039;t solve the problem, it only exacerbates it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I couldn&#39;t vote for McCain, who I didn&#39;t think had a clue about how to get us out of this economic mess. Unfortunately, it appears neither does Obama. Throwing good money after bad won&#39;t solve the problem, it only exacerbates it.</p>
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		<title>By: Devils Advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devils Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa - someone who voted for Obama uses a screen name invoking Ayn Rand-?? Seems counterintuitive, especially considering his aforementioned interventionist economic policies. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That said, don&#039;t count him out till you see the pine box go in the hole. People of all political persuasions say they hate bailouts till one comes their way. Just wait - we still haven&#039;t seen Stimulus III (It will be Stimulus IV, actually, if you count the first stimulus when Bush sent everybody $300 dollar checks in early 2008).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa &#8211; someone who voted for Obama uses a screen name invoking Ayn Rand-?? Seems counterintuitive, especially considering his aforementioned interventionist economic policies. </p>
<p>That said, don&#39;t count him out till you see the pine box go in the hole. People of all political persuasions say they hate bailouts till one comes their way. Just wait &#8211; we still haven&#39;t seen Stimulus III (It will be Stimulus IV, actually, if you count the first stimulus when Bush sent everybody $300 dollar checks in early 2008).</p>
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